The Great Vax Debate: Back to School Edition

July 29, 2025

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America was built on liberty, yet parents are told tocomply. Each school year arrives with a longer shot schedule, heavier pressure,and fewer honest answers. Tonight’s townhall gathered three voices who refuseto outsource parental authority: Moms for America’s founder KimberlyFletcher, board-certified pediatrician and researcher Dr. Paul Thomas,and physician-attorney and GoldCare founder Dr. Simone Gold. Together,they pulled back the curtain on mandates, money, data, and real-world choicesfor families.

When “well-child” means “shot check”

Dr. Gold opened with a simple observation from decades inemergency medicine: the flu patients she admitted had often been vaccinated;the shot was mandatory in her hospitals; and vaccine status wasn’t even part ofroutine emergency histories when infants arrived after sudden collapse. Thatblind spot, she argued, mirrors a wider culture where “well-child” visits havebecome shot checkpoints, and where questioning the schedule triggers outsizedbacklash instead of calm discussion.

Kimberly Fletcher gave the family view. As a mother of eightand grandmother, she’s watched “well visits” morph into shot visits whilechronic childhood problems—autism spectrum diagnoses, allergies, asthma,autoimmune issues—proliferate. She hears daily from mothers who sense somethingis off but feel steamrolled by clinics and schools. The result is a risingflight to alternatives, including homeschooling and private care models thatrespect parental say-so.

A pediatrician wakes up

Dr. Thomas described his own turning point. Trained in theconventional model and board-certified for 30 years, he began noticing a waveof developmental and immune disorders in the early 2000s, including severalpatients who regressed into severe, nonverbal autism shortly after clusteredvaccinations. When he slowed the schedule and honored informed consent, hispartners called it “unethical” not to follow the CDC calendar. He persisted,published real-world data comparing variably vaccinated and unvaccinatedchildren from his large practice—and promptly lost his board certification and,ultimately, his license.

His findings, he said, were stark: in his cohort theunvaccinated were markedly healthier across neurodevelopmental problems andeven common infections. In routine practice, most pediatricians never see thiscomparison because families who question the schedule are discharged, andhealthier unvaccinated siblings land elsewhere. Remove the comparison group,and the evidence of difference disappears with them.

Incentives and penalties most parents never see

Why is dissent so rare? Follow the money, said Dr. Thomas.Pediatric practices profit several ways from vaccination: small productmarkups, per-shot administration fees, and—most powerfully—payer “quality”bonuses tied to having two-year-olds fully vaccinated on time. Miss the metricsand payments drop. Hit them and bonuses rise. In his practice, simply allowingfamilies to opt out meant walking away from enormous annual sums. The financialstructure rewards volume and punishes caution, which explains why clinicspressure, shame, and sometimes dismiss families who won’t comply.

Dr. Gold underscored how this financial architecture workshand-in-glove with licensing boards and specialty societies. During COVID-eracontroversies, the most compliant cohort she encountered was pediatrics—anecosystem where AAP policies, hospital mandates, and payer metrics combine tomake dissent economically and professionally dangerous. Her advice was blunt:if your pediatrician touts membership in organizations pushing uniformcompliance and “no exemptions,” consider that a red flag.

Birth, fine print, and shots given by default

Pregnancy and delivery are now a front line. Families oftensign digital hospital consent packets during labor, not realizing they’vegranted permission for newborn injections by default. Dr. Thomas urged parentsto read forms in advance, keep baby in sight, and be explicit about refusals.He questioned the rationale for routine newborn hepatitis B vaccination—aimedat a risk scenario that doesn’t apply to the vast majority of infants—andhighlighted aluminum content and timing concerns that parents rarely hear inperson. Kimberly added the practical piece: many mothers learn after the factwhat was administered “with consent” they didn’t realize they’d given.Preparation before delivery prevents painful surprises later.

Schools, mandates, and the power to say no

Two choke points drive compliance: hospitals and schools.Most states—forty-six at the time of this conversation—permit religiousor philosophical exemptions for K-12. Dr. Thomas called them “simple,” but Dr.Gold noted that “simple” isn’t always “easy”: some districts misstate therules, certain states layer on odd requirements, and individual officialssometimes stonewall. That’s why GoldCare built a state-by-state exemptionservice and pair it with education and medical consults. Families don’t justneed a form; they need clarity, language to use with schools, and a calm guide whensomeone says “no” who doesn’t have the authority to say it.

Kimberly reframed the heart of the matter: this isn’t merely“parental rights”—it’s parental authority. Parents carry the duty toprotect children’s bodies and futures. Where there’s risk, there must bechoice; where there’s pressure, there must be a firm “no.” Mass compliancekeeps broken systems running. Coordinated refusal—families walking out of hostilepractices, clinicians refusing coercion—forces change faster than debate alone.

What about the data—and the silence?

A theme threaded through the hour: a genuine scientificculture welcomes questions and tracks outcomes that might challenge itsassumptions. In vaccine safety, the panel argued, the opposite has becomenormal. Trials comparing new products against other adjuvanted injections,abbreviated follow-ups, “coincidence” labels for post-shot events, and asurveillance system (VAERS) most clinicians neither understand nor use allguarantee that inconvenient signals stay faint. Meanwhile, prime-timepharmaceutical advertising saturates the airwaves and tells viewers to mentionvaccines to their doctors before starting other drugs—an indirect admissionthat shots alter immune function—while clinical visits rarely record those veryexposures during adverse events.

A different way to do care

Families need doctors who are free to tell the truth as theysee it, who can discuss ingredients, schedules, and tradeoffs without scripts,and who won’t threaten to drop a patient for declining a product. That’s theecosystem GoldCare set out to build: independent clinicians, on-demandeducation, exemption guidance where lawful, and practical access to basicswithout gatekeeping. Tonight’s offer—yearly membership paired with Dr. Thomas’sbook Vax Facts—wasn’t presented as a trinket, but as a reference manualparents can actually use, chapter by chapter, stage by stage.

Final words to parents

Dr. Thomas’s closing was direct: protection starts at home.You do not need to comply to be a “good” parent. You can refuse hospitaldefaults. You can choose a clinician who honors your say. You can declineschool pressure and file the exemption your state allows. If someone in a whitecoat, a front office, or a vice-principal’s chair declares otherwise, you’renot out of options—you’re just dealing with someone outside their lane.

Dr. Gold added the legal and practical frame. Theencroachment families feel isn’t accidental; it’s built into policy, payments,and professional oversight. But the law still leaves room to act, and acting iseasier with smart counsel and a medical team that answers to patients—notmetrics. Fletcher’s last note brought it back to courage. Mothers sense whensomething isn’t right. Information turns that instinct into action. Actionprotects children.

Back-to-school shouldn’t mean surrendering parentalauthority at the clinic counter or the school door. It should mean clear eyes,steady hands, and a plan that fits the child in front of you. If the old systemdemands permission slips for your conscience, this conversation is yourreminder: permission ends where protection begins.

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